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 Post subject: Diesel or Petrol ? Which is best .....
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:27 pm 
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I suspect this has been asked before, however here goes. I am looking at getting a T30. My budget is some what small, about 3K, and I have been reading up on both the TD and petrol.

There seems to be some issues with Xy engines. Now I know that it always the negatives we hear about, and after further investigation, the 2.2 TD seems be the best option. There will be forest trails, mud, water and snow to consider :biggrin:

Previous vehicles include RR 3.5 V8, 110 Defender, SII, SIII, Jeep XJ.

So which is the better engine to go for, diesel or petrol ?

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The only fair way that you could get an answer on here to that question, is from someone who has owned (and used quite regularly), one of each fuel type... otherwise 99% of the forum'ers are going to be biased to their own particular fuel option :thumbs:

Based on that, I think the answer on here would be wavy at best, as it would be based on how many people replied and voted for their own car and not a fairly judged opinion, unless they owned both fuel types for the same year, model etc.

My advice is to test drive a few yourself... even try an LPG conversion too if you can find one and to be your own judge. ;-)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:26 am 
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Hello snowyfox,

Welcome to the Forum.

I think shaymeboy has the right answer here - go out and try some you will then experience the difference first hand. :thumbs:

With a budget of £3k your choice will be restricted, also the earlier X-Trails different engine combinations. Also when you say "There will be forest trails, mud, water and snow to consider" I take it that you intend to get your hand dirty with your X-Trail - so you may pick up a bargain if you are not too bothered about the cosmetics of your car.

Good luck in your search, and if you find the right vehicle then I think this is the place for advice and support in your venture. :biggrin:

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Thank you. Well yes, I do not mind getting bruised knuckles, a must for owning LRs.:biggrin:

I figure if the "car" is going to get muddy, a good set of tyres is the big must. Then it is a matter of working upwards. I have spent some time digging around, I build some of the mods I want, more to follow on this. Just uncertain about the engine. Dci sounds good, but probabley out my budget, the 2.0 petrol appears to be a no. So that leaves the 2.5 petrol and the 2.2 td.

The autobox is appealing, and if treated right can perform off road ok. I would find it a close call between a manual or auto box. Servicing seems to be not an issue for either. I would like to try and get a drive in both, however we shall see......

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Hi snowyfox. Both diesel and petrol engines are good, Your budget may limit you slightly though as diesel versions tend to hold their value better than petrol so you may find a good deal on a 2.5 somewhere? These engines have pretty good torque (not up to the standard of a diesel by any means but they are good) and you wouldn't have to worry about any intercooler/turbo issues. Seems most people are keen on diesels when looking for an X Trail so search for a cheap petrol one, get a decent air filter and plugs and away you go!
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Thanks Vandy. Well I did get to go in a 2.2 today, have to say dissappointed. Now the car had seen better days, but quite presentable, and with a bit of work would look a darn sight better.

However the engine was smokey, black, and the lack of go was a sign all was not well under the bonnet. My old Cherokee VM had more get up and go. Will try a petrol, shame Nissan did not do an inline 6.......

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Thanks Vandy. Well I did get to go in a 2.2 today, have to say dissappointed. Now the car had seen better days, but quite presentable, and with a bit of work would look a darn sight better.

However the engine was smokey, black, and the lack of go was a sign all was not well under the bonnet. My old Cherokee VM had more get up and go. Will try a petrol, shame Nissan did not do an inline 6.......


Shame they don't do a big whotsit off V8 :whistle: Would have settled for 6 cylinders though - definately :thumbs:

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shame Nissan did not do an inline 6.......


They did!! Try the RB26DETT from an R34 Skyline. 3L straight 6 twin turbo lump of happiness!!

Toyota made a similar lump - slightly more tuneable - which I have seen fitted to a Hilux and tuned to good effect :)

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Slightly off topic, but have we seen any engine-converted X Trails anywhere?

I have to say, when I went to collect my spares car with the trailer, I borrowed a 3.1TD Izusu Trooper and thought "wow, wish I could get this engine in an X Trail!" - A bit agricultural no doubt but a hugely strong engine, and in the LWB chassis its about the best tow car you could ask for.

Anyway, I have to say I'm growing a little tired of my 2.0 petrol only coming on cam at 3000rpm. It's a bit like riding a two-stroke bike again, just without the nice smell...

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