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After owning 3 XTs all with proper spare wheels:2 steel and one alloy I was sorry to see the "full size" but temporary spare in the new Sport 150 that I now own
The wheel is 16 in rather that 17in like the alloys and has a tyre that is not as low profile as the other wheels so that its the same overall size and width
WHY ??
I can understand smaller spares if the space is limited but the spare wheel well is big enough to take a full size wheel

Not only that but the emergency procedure section of the handbook says not to tow a trailer when using the spare
I have emailed Nisan to ask them to confirm this and to explain what I do if unfortunate enough to puncture when towing my caravan
It is possible to buy an Alloy from a Nissan dealer at a cost of £560 plus £125 for a tyre and Nissan do not have a 17in steel rim available
I have managed to locate an alloy off a late model XT which has the same size tyre and stud pattern but really at £25000 for a new car it should be complete
The rims are an unusual size and most after market alloys are 17 X 7J minimum whereas Nissan use 17 X 6.5J
It is cheaper to buy a full set of replacement alloys and tyres than one Nissan alloy
Customer Care !! :roll:
 

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Have now got the wheel off a Columbia which is 6 spoke,5stud and 17in rim fitted with the exact same tyre as the new XT
It cost £188 and does fit in the spare wheel well easily
The offset of the wheel measures the same as the newer one and as it is to be in the boot most of the time the slightly different spoke design doesn't matter
What does matter is that puncturing when towing would be no longer a problem
 

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Thanks for the comments
I am still awaiting a reply from Nissan to my request that they confirm that the temporary spare as stated in the handbook is not to be used when towing a trailer
This seems understandable if its a reduced size spare because of lack of space but the idea of providing a full size temporary spare is totally illogical and is not in the customers best interest and if its full size why the towing restriction/ban?
In fact it smacks of putting one over on the customer by providing a cheaper inferior product that could cause considerable inconvenience
I haven't seen it mentionned in any brochures or road tests and as I pointed out to my dealer as my car was supplied with a towbar they should have to make the customer aware of these "safety" requirements.
Reading various websites there are a lot of people unhappy about the whole emergency/lack of spare wheel on several makes of car
One pundit said that it was OK by EEC regs so it was OK :roll:
 

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Hi

My thanks to John for locating the wheels.

I had a drive up and collected one.

Although I begrudged every penny now I've got it home and cleaned it up I'm really pleased I got it.

The thought of towing down through France in the middle of the night and getting a puncture with only a "Not to be used" spare doesn't appeal to me. O.K. I could always pull off the motorway until morning and wait for a tyre dealer to open, but if they're the same as in this country it'll mean a 24 hour wait for the new tyre (minimum). Could spoil a hoiday too.

Even in this country my caravan trips are in the 100 to 300 mile range so it makes sense for me.

Thanks again John.

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I still feel ripped off by Nissan :cry:
That white paint took some shifting :shock:
 

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Hi John,

Interesting reading that, but Nissan are not alone that respect!
My wife has a Vauxhall Zafira that is fitted with 16" alloys as standard, and guess what, yep the spare is a 15" steel wheel with a higher profile tyre!
At first I thought the original spare may have been stolen, as is quite common in Zafira's, but no, after checking with the dealers I'm told the 15" spare is correct!
I can only assume that when Vauxhall upgraded the standard alloys to 16 incher's they were too tight to provide a larger spare wheel, its probably no more than penny pinching by the manufactures as certainly not space saving!
 

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Its probably a Brink that Nissan (it was on the older model) list but I had a Witter bolt on ball type fitted by a towbar specialist arranged by the Nissan dealer at a cost of £238 for the bar and single electrics
That they chose an independant and Witter may be due to costing :shock:
 

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StevieJ said:
Hi John,

Interesting reading that, but Nissan are not alone that respect!
My wife has a Vauxhall Zafira that is fitted with 16" alloys as standard, and guess what, yep the spare is a 15" steel wheel with a higher profile tyre!
At first I thought the original spare may have been stolen, as is quite common in Zafira's, but no, after checking with the dealers I'm told the 15" spare is correct!
I can only assume that when Vauxhall upgraded the standard alloys to 16 incher's they were too tight to provide a larger spare wheel, its probably no more than penny pinching by the manufactures as certainly not space saving!
Very true
My neighbour has a Hond Civic and it comes with spare wheel size well and no wheel at all
Interestingly the Civic rim is bigger than the Xt at 17inX 7J against 17inX 6.5J
I emailed Nissan again and they actually rang me to say that it was Ok to use the spare when towing the van as far as a service station !!
As it took a week to get the last XT tyre it would need to be a SS with nice views !!
The guy on the phone started to explain that it was because the spare was smaller ;) ;)
He was unaware that its exactly the same dimensions :shock:
He promised to pass on the discontent :cool:
 

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New kid on the block here.
08 Aventura,bought for towing the tin tent,looks like we've bin had re the spare wheel!

Spoke to Nissan today re this matter(bit like banging your head against the wall....nice when you stop!!)
Has anybody got an Email address for customer support that works, the one I tried keeps throwing it back.
Bit of history for the record.69 turns on the coil,live in the Forest Of Dean,Caravanner,Dogs body,Radio Ham,also play with RC cars if I can escape!!!!
John
 

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Has anyone actually fitted a wheel from an "Old Style Pre 07" X-Trail onto a "New Style 07 onwards" X-Trail? I would like to be sure it will fit the car not just the boot before I look for one.
 

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My new (T31) X-Trail has 17" wheels and I have seen 17" wheels for sale from Older (T30) Xtrails whch I would like to use to replace my temporary use spare. I have seen reports that others have done this, but they have not said whether they have actually tried them on the car. The specification appears the same but I am warry because I tried to buy a new wheel to this specification (a Wolfrace Excite 552) but the supplier called me to say that another buyer had returned their new wheel as it did not fit due to the size of the centre.
 

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I know that some T30 models have 17" wheels, what I am trying to find out is whether they will definately fit on a T31 model. i.e. has anyone actually fitted one on a T31?
 

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Any more on this. i.e. a 17" T30 "will fit exactly" on a T31. The tread does not confirm this. I am not searching idealy for a T31 17"
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My dealer's service dept tell me today that a T30 17" is different to a T31 17" as the hubs are totally different.
Doing a lot of searching today it seems there are loads of T30 17" available but no T31s
 

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I have fitted the T30 17" wheel that I bought onto my T31 and everthing appears tofit okay so not sure why your dealer says it will not fit. Xacre has also reported that the wheel fits okay?
 

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I'm hoping to go and look at a T30 alloy wheel on Monday for my T31, my only concern is the question, is the hole in the middle of the T30 wheel the same size (or bigger) than the T31 so that it will fit over the front or rear hubcasting / bearing nut?
I could take a wheel off, measure up , measure at the sellers and after all that made a journey for nothing, so I am hoping a forum member can tell me the easy way.
 
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