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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:39 pm 
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Hi people
There has been a lot of positive and negative reaction to the T32 xtrail. Mainly due to comparisons between the new model and the previous T30 and T31 models. Well, as I was bored and it was raining exponentially I thought I would try and find out why Nissan decided to go the way they did.

In the pre T32 days the main competitors to the T30 and T31 were always stated as the LR Free lander, Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV and The Suzuki Grand Vitara. So the competition was clearly the soft road 4x4 market. Nissan themselves always marketed the xtrail as the small member of the Nissan 4x4 stable, with the Pathfinder, Navara and Patrol being its bigger siblings. One car that was noticeably absent from this list was the Murano as Nissan always marketed this as an SUV whose competition was deemed to be the BMW X5 and Mercedes ML series.

Then along comes the T32, with an uncanny resemblance to the Qashqai and also the Murano. If you now read the write ups Nissan are now clearly stating that the new/T32 xtrail is the mid range sibling in the SUV range, with at the lower end the Qashqai and the upper end the Murano. No mention of the Pathfinder, Navara etc.

Nissan has also distanced itself from the competition linkage of the pre T32 xtrails and are now stating that the main competition for the T32 xtrail are the Ford Kuga, Honda CR-V and Hyundai ix35 in the mid-sized SUV class.

So, in conclusion Nissan have decided that the new Xtrail was needed to fill a gap between the Qashqai and the Murano, rather than be the baby if the off road family. In all honesty, Nissan have probably got it right with Market placement and I think as an SUV against the competition mentioned it should do very well.

Personally I still wouldn't buy one, but that is only my view.
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Milton, and thats the problem :bigcry:

What is the replacement for you when the time comes?

T31 or another brand?

Mitsubishi Outlander PHV, gets good reviews not 100% sure.


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Hi Rappy

Not sure yet. Must admit just recently I have been looking at the Murano as a future possibility. It kind of depends if my requirements for a load lugging reasonably sure footed off road vehicle are still the same in say 3 years time. If they are then I think a T31 may be my first choice. I like the out lander but in some ways its to pretty pretty.

At the moment more than happy with my T30, does everything I ask of it.
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The Outlander PHEV was top of my list until I discovered that it has no spare wheel - presumably the space is taken up with batteries.

Now leaning towards the Santa Fe.


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i thought the Murano had ceased production a long while back... cant remember the last time i saw one of them ugly little b*****s!

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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/murano/86622/new-nissan-murano-revealed-pictures

i see an all new one ready for next year... have to say much more pleasing on the eye than the first generation!

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marksparks999 wrote:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/murano/86622/new-nissan-murano-revealed-pictures

i see an all new one ready for next year... have to say much more pleasing on the eye than the first generation!



Uncanny resemblance to ...............

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bazzer wrote:
I'm still considering a RX300 seems to be all I need.


you need to contact Vandy as he has one, for an honest review

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Reading auto express today, they did a review on the new landrover discovery sport. This is a mini version of the discovery (a bit like the evoque to the range rover)and is replacing the freelander.

Must admit it looks rather good, only problem is landrover have released it with a fairly old diesel lump. In about a years time they are releasing it with a brand new modern engine. Could be one to consider as a future replacement for the xtrail.

Sounds like all the manufacturers are recognizing the benefits of the SUV market.

I wonder how the current disco owners feel about their new baby brother.

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