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 Post subject: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:23 am 
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So I'm looking at sorting out some winter wheels for the car but not sure on the options? I know there are either the 19" or 17" wheels for the Xtrail but was wondering if I could fit wheels from another Nissan model, the Juke for example. I've looked online and seen that the fitment is almost the same apart from the ofset being 47 rather than 45. Is this an option? Also would I need to get another TPMS system for the wheels and if so where have people got that from before?

Or would another option be to just buy the winter tyres and swap them over on my current rims?


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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:59 pm 
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I've wondered about winter wheels/tyres in the past but have never got round to it - only really needed for a few days or weeks a year where I live.
The latest Qashqai is an exact fit, as I got a full sized spare for the T32 to match my existing wheels from one. You probably realise that the width & aspect ratio is obviously key, especially if going down to 17" - not sure how much choice there is in winter tyres though, to get the correct rolling circumference.
As for getting TPMS, that would make it an expensive setup all in so it may be better to just change the tyres. I didn't particularly want to do that with the Tekna wheels as I'm not sure how well the diamond cut edge will stand up to 'excessive' tyre changes.
Depends on your model and personal choice I guess - if you complete your profile we'd know a bit more about you :smile:

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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:18 pm 
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Well I used to use winter wheels on my Qashqai and I think they are worth the investment. Looking about £800 for a full set of wheels, tyres and TPMS. I've updated my profile now to!


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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:48 pm 
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Andrew, does the full sized 19" spare fit OK in the wheel well in the boot?

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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:19 pm 
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TrickyRik wrote:
Andrew, does the full sized 19" spare fit OK in the wheel well in the boot?

Rik.

Yes it does fit, but won't be to some people's liking!
I posted some pics in this thread about it, look for the PDF and description in the post. viewtopic.php?f=114&t=50178
I had a devil of a job finding this old topic - I do wonder sometimes about the search function on here (or my ability to use it!) as I'd forgotten which one it was in. Can anyone (mods?) explain why this topic didn't show up when I searched for 'boot floor panels', an expression that I knew I'd used in the post?? Found several others that had those words, but not the one I wanted.

Basically it does stop you using the lower floor position, but I just chuck all my gear like a small socket set and blanket in and around the wheel, so it's not an issue for me, and I'd much rather have a full sized spare on board so I'm not limited by the space saver. It's been invaluable recently being able to use the car normally with the spare on, while I try to track down which (if any) wheel is causing a vibration that's driving me NUTS!

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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:23 pm 
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Model: Ntec 1.6 DIG-T 7 seat
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Hi all, also looking for winter tyres for my 2016 Ntec which is currently on 19" factory wheels.

Ideally would like some 17" with 225/65 tyres.

I have to reverse onto a steep drive and then turn 90 degrees as I descend. Twice the car has slid sideways on the wet slope which none of my previous cars have done. Once was when I was going quite slowly. Not a great feeling sliding towards the house sideways!. I suspect the super ECO tyres are a little lacking in lateral grip, or else they are not properly run in yet at approx 400 miles which was mainly motorway. Winter tyres on previous car significantly improved the traction.

I'm a little confused on the wheel offsets.

T32 seems to be 45mm though I can't find anywhere this is recorded as a spec. Yet to take a wheel off to confirm if its stamped or moulded into the back of the rim.

Qashqai seems to be 40mm for the recent models so although the wheels look similar, they are slightly different. Assume this would have no effect on the clearances as the wheel would be 5mm further out from the centre line. Have seen some second hand 17"s in good condition at a decent price.

Juke is 47mm, I have considered the discounted black / purple Juke wheels from Glynn Hopkins, but the might just be a little too shocking vs the Haptic Blue. Initially I though the colour was a little more subtle than it seems to be.

What do others run?

Would also looking to get TPMS fitted. Does this Nissan auto detect compatible sensors and wheel positions or do they need to be programmed to the car?

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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:28 pm 
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I just bought some 17 x 7J Qashqai wheels. These are 40mm offset rather thank 45mm of the xtrail which means the wheel will stick out by 5mm extra. A total of 10mm on the track.
These look very much like the Visa / Acenta wheels which I priced at £420+vat each from Nissan.

Question now is to TPMS or not. From what I can find out the sensors need to be programmed to the car, but the car can work out which sensor is which wheel if you swap them round.
Local garage can duplicate my existing codes at £80 per wheel.


How annoying is the system with no sensors, any insurance issues?

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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:21 pm 
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Location: South Glasgow
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Year/Plate: 2015
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I'm watching, and learning, with great interest. We're about to go into our first full winter with this car, and are seriously considering new wheels and tyres. The TPMS thing really doesn't interest me, can happily live without it, but, how happy is the car without?
I also seem to think that Landrover Disco/Defender/Range wheels will fit, thoughts? We're running the factory tekna 19's and I was also wondering about going for a smaller rim with more rubber, more aggressive tread, anyone went this route?
I now, questions, questions :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:58 pm 
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Well this is a clear a mud. My local garage can provide clone sensors programmed to my existing IDs for £80 each while OEM are around £50 each.

Dealer technician says they can code a max of 5 sensors to the car and these would need recoding at each wheel swap at approx £30 for the set.

Qashqai forums suggest some have just done a reset and driven the car and they auto detect. Some iffy YouTube videos on shorting a white wire to enable programmed mode.
All the TPMS companies treat the programming method as a trade secret you can only read if signed up as an installer.

Frustrating this isn't more transparent.



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 Post subject: Re: Winter wheels options
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:24 pm 
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So quick update, pays to shop around.

Local specialist matched the best price for tyres I'd been able to find online and discounted the tyre fitting and sensor programming.

Upshot is the cloned sensors will cost me £60 each which is close enough to OEM not to matter given I have a local specialist to go back to with any issues.

They use the autogem i-sensor like most other specialists I've spoken to.

Tyres are mid range Nokian, have these on the other car, best price
Just over £100 each delivered as 225 65 17. £700 all in for tyres, sensors, fitting, programming.

Wheels £150 from eBay. Look identical to the Visa/Accenta except for the offset. Cleaned up brilliantly, only marks on the rear rim where old knock on weights removed.


Insurance company (Direct Line) said no charge for using alternate wheel's and tyres after I explained they were an approved size and profile as stated in the manual. Just asked I inform them when fitting or removing.

Should be here next week.



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