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 Post subject: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 pm 
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Well I wondered how long it would be before I needed to replace the clock spring.

The left hand buttons have never worked and I know nothing wrong with them as I had them replaced when I bought the car thinking they were faulty. The right hand buttons however for cruise did work until about a month ago when cruise worked intermittently and then not at all - oh well I can drive without cruise but yesterday cyclist pulled across in front of me and to my alarm hit horn pad and nothing so as MOT coming up next month and no horn would be failure new clock spring/squib ordered using part numbers off Part Souq for my VIN - £46 so not bad.

Now has anyone any idea how long it will take garage to swap them?? Mines a T31 facelift Tekna.

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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:24 pm 
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Norfolk Jim wrote:
Well I wondered how long it would be before I needed to replace the clock spring.

The left hand buttons have never worked and I know nothing wrong with them as I had them replaced when I bought the car thinking they were faulty. The right hand buttons however for cruise did work until about a month ago when cruise worked intermittently and then not at all - oh well I can drive without cruise but yesterday cyclist pulled across in front of me and to my alarm hit horn pad and nothing so as MOT coming up next month and no horn would be failure new clock spring/squib ordered using part numbers off Part Souq for my VIN - £46 so not bad.

Now has anyone any idea how long it will take garage to swap them?? Mines a T31 facelift Tekna.

Cheers

NJ

Hi folks, what actually is this "clock spring" and what does it do? As far as I know no car I have ever owned has had one so I have no idea. I have heard it mentioned several times on this forum though. I assume it has nothing to do with clocks! ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:50 pm 
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Norfolk Jim wrote:
Well I wondered how long it would be before I needed to replace the clock spring.

The left hand buttons have never worked and I know nothing wrong with them as I had them replaced when I bought the car thinking they were faulty. The right hand buttons however for cruise did work until about a month ago when cruise worked intermittently and then not at all - oh well I can drive without cruise but yesterday cyclist pulled across in front of me and to my alarm hit horn pad and nothing so as MOT coming up next month and no horn would be failure new clock spring/squib ordered using part numbers off Part Souq for my VIN - £46 so not bad.

Now has anyone any idea how long it will take garage to swap them?? Mines a T31 facelift Tekna.

Cheers

NJ

Hi folks, what actually is this "clock spring" and what does it do? As far as I know no car I have ever owned has had one so I have no idea. I have heard it mentioned several times on this forum though. I assume it has nothing to do with clocks! ;-)


It is a spiral of flat multistrand wire wound like a clockspring around the steering column. It allows an electrical connection to all steering wheel controls whilst allowing the steering wheel to be turned. It winds tighter when you turn one way, and unwinds when you turn the other. Hope this makes sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:51 pm 
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Norfolk Jim wrote:
Well I wondered how long it would be before I needed to replace the clock spring.

The left hand buttons have never worked and I know nothing wrong with them as I had them replaced when I bought the car thinking they were faulty. The right hand buttons however for cruise did work until about a month ago when cruise worked intermittently and then not at all - oh well I can drive without cruise but yesterday cyclist pulled across in front of me and to my alarm hit horn pad and nothing so as MOT coming up next month and no horn would be failure new clock spring/squib ordered using part numbers off Part Souq for my VIN - £46 so not bad.

Now has anyone any idea how long it will take garage to swap them?? Mines a T31 facelift Tekna.

Cheers

NJ


Hi Jim

About 30 minutes at most.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:55 pm 
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Bus-man wrote:
Norfolk Jim wrote:
Well I wondered how long it would be before I needed to replace the clock spring.

The left hand buttons have never worked and I know nothing wrong with them as I had them replaced when I bought the car thinking they were faulty. The right hand buttons however for cruise did work until about a month ago when cruise worked intermittently and then not at all - oh well I can drive without cruise but yesterday cyclist pulled across in front of me and to my alarm hit horn pad and nothing so as MOT coming up next month and no horn would be failure new clock spring/squib ordered using part numbers off Part Souq for my VIN - £46 so not bad.

Now has anyone any idea how long it will take garage to swap them?? Mines a T31 facelift Tekna.

Cheers

NJ

Hi folks, what actually is this "clock spring" and what does it do? As far as I know no car I have ever owned has had one so I have no idea. I have heard it mentioned several times on this forum though. I assume it has nothing to do with clocks! ;-)


It is a spiral of flat multistrand wire wound like a clockspring around the steering column. It allows an electrical connection to all steering wheel controls whilst allowing the steering wheel to be turned. It winds tighter when you turn one way, and unwinds when you turn the other. Hope this makes sense.

Ah yes, that makes perfect sense. Thanks. It could also explain why no car I've had in the past has had one, none of them had any buttons on the steering wheel, apart from the horn.


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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:03 pm 
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Bus-man - It comes under various names sometimes called a squib or steering wheel multi-connector; Colster described it perfectly. Can't complain though as mine must have had millions of turns over it's 181k miles!


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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:54 am 
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I ordered mine from ali. The correct part nr is needed tough.

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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:00 pm 
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I used Parts Souq to get correct part number B5567 JG40D or 40E or 49D


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 Post subject: Re: Clock Spring
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:02 am 
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Wahoo - I now have a working horn and all steering wheel buttons; previously only horn and cruise worked but now I can control audio and sat nav from steering!!!!

When I took it in I had EML come on like once before - code read P0487 and P0488 relating to EGR and resistances. Garage took top off EGR which was hardly dirty so fiddled around with connections, cleared the code and all seems ok. This is second time it's happened so wonder what bit it is as clearly EGR works fine! Ho hum at least I can clear it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:33 pm 
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When you did the tune, why did'nt you program the EGR out. I Asked to do it on mine and even bought a stainless steel blanking plate. No EGR problems. and no lights. The OBD2 monitor says EGR test passed. but i know it does not work.

I did remove the whole EGR assembly to clean it for mainteance before the tune.

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