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 Post subject: Mad springs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:04 pm 
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Hi just changed my caravan to a 2014 Elddis crusader shamal which seems a bit nose heavy compared to my previous van
miro of new one is 1505 kg 1650 max , lengh 24' 6" so has anyone fitted those mad spring assisters and what do they think of them ? they seem a bit expensive at £150 quid ,i was going to get some of them rubber coil assisters but all they do it put extra stress on the coils
Van is fine on a decent road but on some of the country roads i find i get a lot of pitching .

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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:14 pm 
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I don't know how similar the T31 is to the T30 in this respect, but I've always found the T30 rear dampers very "soggy". If the caravan is pitching / floating, I'd probably beef up the dampers before the springs, to be honest. I used to use Koni and Bilstein a lot in a previous job working with sports cars and found them both to be excellent. Unless the sprinsg are on their bump stops (or close to) when the vehicle is stationary, better damping might be better than stiffer springs:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Bilstein- ... SwUdlWcmXr


Konis are pricier but adjustable:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KONI-Heavy-Tr ... SwqYBWoT7z

I have also used a variety of spring manufacturers and found Eibach to be one of the best, but they don't seem to do springs for the T30. They do (insanely expensive) spacers to give the car a slight lift though:

http://www.eibachshop.co.uk/info-part-l ... AIL%20(T31)&spec=2.5%204x4%2001%2F06%2F2007


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:34 pm 
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I've fitted the MAD springs
We bought a new, longer van last year, although it's no heavier

However, it was grounding the jockey wheel when we moved off our driveway, and so the MAD 'assister' springs have raised the rear of the car by about an inch with the van on the back, which means the jockey wheel only just touches when we leave the driveway (sometimes not at all)

The car also feels more stable with the new van - but that might just be me getting used to it?

Yes, not cheap, but I think worth the expense

Fitted them myself, but takes a bit of fiddling to "crowbar" them in


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:05 pm 
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Check on the caravan nose weight,


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:13 pm 
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Check on the caravan nose weight,

Have done with a Milenco calibrated gauge , 65 KG empty

Thanks for other replys i've ordered the mad springs so will see if that makes it any better :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:10 pm 
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Nissan says to 100 so well within spec,


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:42 pm 
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Well got them done today and what a struggle getting them in !!!! :headbang: tow ball height from top has gone from 450mm to 475 mm so i'm hoping the caravan is level now


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:58 pm 
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Deezel wrote:
Well got them done today and what a struggle getting them in !!!! :headbang: tow ball height from top has gone from 450mm to 475 mm so i'm hoping the caravan is level now


Glad you got them in, I didn't find it easy either
Let us know how it tows now you have them


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:40 pm 
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Mods: Just fitted Witter tow bar ,latest adition a dash cam, also replaced Nissans stupid wet f**t horns for 2 much louder.old 4year old dash cam packed in , now fitted with a nextbase 481GW cam GPS + Wi Fi
Aye been out with van and definatley worth doing , caravan is now level and rear end feels a lot firmer now on c**P country roads
Passed MOT today too :mrgreen: also checked mileage from when I bought it in September 2012 and I haven't done 10000 miles yet in 4 years !


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 Post subject: Re: Mad springs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:49 am 
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I wanted to fit MADs for the same reason, but when I rang my insurance company they said I couldn't "suspension modification"!

My nose weight is is about 75kg, but we do carry a lot in the boot. Bumping ramps on Scottish ferrys is my main concern.

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