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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:18 pm 
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Received two recall letters today.

One for the reg that I own, and another for reg YG09PXE ( a black X-trail)....that I don't!

Harratts at Wakefield must have a passed on some duff info to Nissan Motor GB.. :headbang:

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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:43 pm 
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Which models are they recalling.? Mines an 07 it's still in a nissan garage as I'm not picking it up till next week.


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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:42 am 
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To Kipper Sarny:

Just to ask you if I'm right: In the earlier days it could happen the engine went "on the run" when over-rev it, because of the carter ventilation which sucked on oil. The engine could never stop unless it blows apart.... I've seen the results on board of the ship of a friend. Wow..... you cannot imagine the mess it made!!

Can this happens these days? Hope not... :thumbs:

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 Post subject: New X-Trail Recall
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:00 pm 
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I received a recall notice this morning.

"Nissan has identified that is a small number of cases when operating under a high load, high engine speed and severe driving conditions, the engine bearings may wear. If the vehicle continues to be driven in this condition, in extreme cases the engine may stall due to seizure of the main or connecting rod bearings."


The fix is to have the vehicle's Engine Control Module reprogrammed with updated software. They say that the rework will take around 1 hour (and be free of charge, of course) - however, my Nissan dealer tells me that it has to be done on a cold engine, so they have to wait at last an hour and a half for the engine to cool first.

Mine is going in on Monday and they will give me a free courtesy car. :thumbs:

Mine is a 59 reg. T31.


I wish I had known this a week ago as I have just done a 1,400 mile trip across Germany at Autobahn speeds of up to about 120mph and the return journey in rain and mist.

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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:20 pm 
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I got mine this morning - booked in for Monday with a free courtesy car. :thumbs:

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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
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Ahhhhhhhhh, the red carped treatment..... (Some people have al the luck... :whistle: :lol: )

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 Post subject: Re: Latest issue M9R engine
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:33 pm 
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My recall letter arrived today - it's being done on Monday.

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 Post subject: Re: New Recall - Just received
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Wimbo wrote:
To Kipper Sarny:

Just to ask you if I'm right: In the earlier days it could happen the engine went "on the run" when over-rev it, because of the carter ventilation which sucked on oil. The engine could never stop unless it blows apart.... I've seen the results on board of the ship of a friend. Wow..... you cannot imagine the mess it made!!

Can this happens these days? Hope not... :thumbs:


I assume it could but I specialised in Hydraulic systems for the last twenty years of my working life so my engine knowledge is old school.
I used the valve spring as an example because it is my understanding that this is where self distraction normally starts in an over revving engine I suppose it is possible for the sump to be sucked dry of oil but I have never heard of it.

I'll try to explain better:
Let's say a valve spring takes 0.001 seconds to close the valve.
At 5,000RPM the piston takes 0.002 seconds from TDC firing stroke to TDC exhaust stroke all is fine but if at 7,000RPM the piston only takes 0.0001 between the two TDC positions there fore the valve is still open.
Another problem could be due to the increased engine speed oil is unable to pass through the galleries at a quick enough rate to lubricate surfaces which are under a lot more pressure due to the increased centrifugal force of the piston's.
Due to filter restrictions bypass valves, I assume would open & possibly the oil pump would not be able to deliver enough oil due to cavitation.
Timing chains would be under greater wear with inadequate lubrication especially if splash lubricated.
At one time it was possible to fit different weights to an inline diesel pump deeding on it's application.

Again I think there is absolutely nothing to worry about with this recall I would assume in normal & even most abnormal use of the engine there is no problem.

Possibly something like they found during heavy off roaring at an angle in wet slurry with no wheel resistance the engine can be over revved so to avoid the problem they've reprogrammed maximum RPM.

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 Post subject: Re: Latest issue M9R engine
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:01 pm 
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Sounds as if you were in a bit of a hurry John....are you sure you need the recall.... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Latest issue M9R engine
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kennygwood wrote:
Sounds as if you were in a bit of a hurry John....are you sure you need the recall.... :roll:


I went to the 85th anniversary of Georg Neumann & co. at Gefell in Germany.

Missed the flight due to massive jams on the M40 and M25, so drove instead.

Normally I cruise the autobahns at between 90-110mph, but I did get up to 120mph this time.

At least it ensured a nice clean DPF filter ;-)

Home for a few days then up to Manchester for the Institute of Acoustics Conference and a trip round the new BBC Media City.

My wife is beginning to look on me as a stranger. :lol:

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